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Cost of a used ZC DOHC

Postby user1.0 » Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:18 am

I found one of these for sale around where I live, but the seller has asked me to make a fair offer. What should one of these go for today on average. It comes with an ecu and tranny.
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Re: Cost of a used ZC DOHC

Postby jfrolang » Tue Sep 20, 2016 12:26 am

Depends on the specific ECU and trans that are included. Most desirable combination would be the PM7 ECU, and the short-ratio trans with equal-length half shafts. Is the engine known to be running/good condition?
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Re: Cost of a used ZC DOHC

Postby Baker » Tue Sep 20, 2016 1:18 pm

Along with which transmission and ECU comes with it, what's the condition of the motor, leak or use any oil?
Mileage, any maintenance done to it?
That will determine price.
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Re: Cost of a used ZC DOHC

Postby tommy » Tue Sep 20, 2016 1:32 pm

As a reference, right now, there's a ZC on hmotorsonline.com - $985 w/out shipping. ZC tranny, +$275. PM7 ECU, +$150. So their price is $1,410, which I find ridiculous.

For all parts being in good shape, and the engine containing the TB and TPS, I would say $800-900ish. Though I haven't really been looking in a long time.

Seller willing to let you do testing on the engine and refund said cabbage back to you if the engine sucks? If so, there's a premium for that.
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Re: Cost of a used ZC DOHC

Postby ModifiedEF » Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:37 pm

If u can get me a Courier who ll pick up pallet from Europe you can have full ZC swap for 800USD
inc intake dizzy mani tranny loom ecu etc.
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Re: Cost of a used ZC DOHC

Postby user1.0 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:40 pm

This is what I know so far:

Definitely not running so cant test. Will have to take his word and those who vouch for him.

Head is off the motor. Claims he was going to do seals and port/polish, but plans changed and now it just sits in garage. This means the engine probably burns oil and will need a rebuild. Claims 70k on it. Says with the block open, you can see the factory cross hatch. Not sure what he means by that.

Supposed to be all there; distributor, header, TB and TPS
ZC 5spd. transmission, guessing non LSD
pm7 ecu

Going to look at it on saturday. What are some things that get often missed when looking over an engine like this?
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Re: Cost of a used ZC DOHC

Postby Spriggan » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:40 pm

PASS! not running and no compression test PASS ON THIS. Id offer 300 then walk away

some vouches can cost as little as a six pack


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Re: Cost of a used ZC DOHC

Postby Baker » Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:19 am

Spriggan wrote:PASS! not running and no compression test PASS ON THIS. Id offer 300 then walk away


:-)b Without it running AND being apart, $300 is fair.


tommy wrote:As a reference, right now, there's a ZC on hmotorsonline.com - $985 w/out shipping. ZC tranny, +$275. PM7 ECU, +$150. So their price is $1,410, which I find ridiculous.


That's BONKERS! :shock:
I remember when these were significantly cheaper, and more readily available.
But as time goes on, there are fewer out there, though they ran them up to the 2000 model year.
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Re: Cost of a used ZC DOHC

Postby tommy » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:12 pm

Yeah, I bought my engine for I think $350? Of course, that was probably 10-15 years ago, but they were also much newer then too. Damn, I'm old. :RIP:
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Re: Cost of a used ZC DOHC

Postby Baker » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:38 pm

tommy wrote:Yeah, I bought my engine for I think $350?


I paid maybe $600 for an OBD1 version, motor only, no ecu or transmission, that was including shipping from the West Coast to NY, circa 2003.
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Re: Cost of a used ZC DOHC

Postby Tesla220 » Thu Sep 22, 2016 3:33 pm

if he wants real money for it he's going to have to put it back together and give you a start up warranty like HMOTORS does. Like all salvage yards do today. Period. No BS
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Re: Cost of a used ZC DOHC

Postby AZCRXSI » Thu Sep 22, 2016 4:06 pm

Agreed.

Put it back together and fire it up. Do a compression test and check. Who disassembles a motor and then tries to sell it? On their word.

That is cool, but business is business. Its not personal.
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Re: Cost of a used ZC DOHC

Postby user1.0 » Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:37 pm

To be fair, he wasn't advertising it, but responded to a WTB post I made on a facebook group. The only response actually. Some years back we had a very active forum, crxontario. The site is still up, but its dead. Its now a facebook group and its not half the resource the forum used to be. Its a lot more difficult to find any parts up here these days.

All very valid points though, thank you all for the input. I would prefer if he had it all in once peace and was able to test, but this is all that is come up so far. If its not a total mess, this might be somewhat worth if he is willing to let it go for the right price. Next is trying importers, but so far browsing local importer sites has not turned up a single zc.
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Re: Cost of a used ZC DOHC

Postby crxgator » Sat Sep 24, 2016 10:07 pm

Maybe KSR in Toronto has some from the early 2000s.

Tell Ken that Leb sent ya.
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Re: Cost of a used ZC DOHC

Postby user1.0 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:15 pm

Nothing I can find on KSR Toronto relating to engines. Do you have any other information, different name?
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Re: Cost of a used ZC DOHC

Postby Baker » Tue Sep 27, 2016 2:11 pm

Why are you looking for a DOHC ZC, why not a Z6, which would be easier to find, putting down similar hp.
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Re: Cost of a used ZC DOHC

Postby user1.0 » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:25 pm

It will be my first swap and I want to do it all myself. So I want to keep it simple and not mess with obd and hydraulic clutch conversions. I like the idea that I can use my stock mounts, transmission and drive shafts (if the zc one doesn't work out) and harness. Maybe this doesn't make sense to some, but with my level of experience the path of least resistance seems like a good idea.
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Re: Cost of a used ZC DOHC

Postby tommy » Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:39 am

I agree with you - keep it simple. You'll learn a lot in the process, and can then do something more exotic the next time. If there is a next time, of course, depending on how it goes. :D
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Re: Cost of a used ZC DOHC

Postby Baker » Wed Sep 28, 2016 11:37 am

user1.0 wrote:So I want to keep it simple and not mess with obd and hydraulic clutch conversions. I like the idea that I can use my stock mounts, transmission and drive shafts


You can use all of your stock parts with any 92-00 d series motor.
The d16Z6 is more easily and readily available motor, with the same amount of power, and you can retain nearly all of your stock parts on the Crx.
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Re: Cost of a used ZC DOHC

Postby user1.0 » Fri Sep 30, 2016 8:24 pm

I get you point Baker, and I agree z6 is easier to find. I'm sure I can pull off the obd conversion if I tried. Just that uncertainty when you haven't done something before. It will be the way to go for sure if I cant find a zc.
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Re: Cost of a used ZC DOHC

Postby Baker » Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:51 am

user1.0 wrote: I'm sure I can pull off the obd conversion if I tried.


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Re: Cost of a used ZC DOHC

Postby CloudPump » Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:41 am

crxgator wrote:Maybe KSR in Toronto has some from the early 2000s.

Tell Ken that Leb sent ya.


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