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Holy Grail... Old Skool Alpine 7909 deck

Postby Robb » Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:18 pm

Bought an old Alpine 7909 CD player from 1989. It's considered to be the 'HOLY GRAIL' of CD players!
If you know anything about vintage/classic car audio, you know about the Alpine 7909. This unit came out in the late eighties-early 90's.
One of the industry's best sounding decks ever made!

I got an awesome deal on it

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UPDATE:
Hey, good news ! The power supply was gone on this 7909 unit, so I had the unit repaired..
Sounds amazing ! I Havent heard anything this clean in car audio ever !!
Even the installer was impressed , and hes been doing car audio for 20+ years...

Here's some pics and a video !

Raw unedited video:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=OzFAtTqBg1s

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Features:
Full Front DIN Chassis
CD Shuttle Controls
Quick Release Bracket
T-10 II Tuner
8-times oversampling digital filter
18-bit Dual D/A Converters
Compact disc Straight
Power loading/self loading
plays 3-inch disc w/o an adapter
music sensor
repeat, scan, random play
Eject Auto-Lock
digital clock
Dual 4v Preamp Outputs (4v preout was unheard of back then)
Litetouch 24-Station Presets
Preset Address
Local/distance Switch
Dimmer Lead
Audio Mute Lead
High contrast fluorescent Display

Specifications:
General:
Output voltage (Preamp) ~ 500mV
Bass Adjustment ~ +/- 18 dB @ 30 Hz
Treble Adjustment ~ +/- 15 dB @ 15 kHz
Dimensions ~W 7" x H 2" x D 6-1/8"

Compact Disc Player:
Sampling Freq ~ 352.8 kHz (8x Oversampling)
# of D/A Converters ~ 2
# of Quantization Bits ~16-Bit Linear System
Freq. Response ~ 5 Hz - 20 kHz
Wow & Flutter ~ below measurable limits
THD ~ 0.002% @ 1 kHz
Dynamic Range ~ 100 dB
SNR ~ 110 dBA
Channel Separation ~ 95 dB @ 1 kHz

AM Tuner:
Sensitivity ~ 10 uV

FM Tuner:
Mono usable sensitivity ~ 16.3 dBf (1.8 uV/75 ohm)
50 dB Quiet Sensitivity ~ 20.7 dBf (3.0 uV / 75 ohm)
alternator channel selectivity ~ 80 dB
SNR ~ 60 dB
Stereo Separation ~ 35 dB
Capture Radio ~ 2.0 dB
AM suppression ~ 45 dB
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Postby mikebmac » Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:06 am

I honestly didn't even know they had music CDs in circulation in the late 80's. Congrats on your purchase!
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Postby Mixelplix » Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:25 am

Good score!

That would go great with my early 90's Orion 250 HCCA Digital Reference amp I have in my CRX.

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Postby Baker » Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:06 am

I love old school Alpine HU's.

Nice find and looks to be in awesome shape!
How did you stumble upon that?
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Postby Robb » Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:08 pm

Baker wrote:How did you stumble upon that?


Lotsa google-ing various car audio forums and asking if they want to sell. :lol:
It wasnt actually for sale. The owner just had it lying around.
Im trying to get another one, brand new 30th anniversary model for my other car....
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Postby 288REX » Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:07 pm

Sweet find! Haven't seen one of those in a while. Reminds me of a mix-a-lot lyric "the Alpine's bumpin' but I need the volume higher" -- Posse on Broadway I believe.
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Postby Mista Bone » Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:58 am

give ya $50 + shipping for it............


and yes I was around then.
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Postby Nick Drake » Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:18 pm

Wow, that thing still have tubes in it too?
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Postby Robb » Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:34 pm

Nick Drake wrote:Wow, that thing still have tubes in it too?


hahha.. no doesnt look like it. Heres the inside of it.

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Postby Mista Bone » Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:03 am

Make sure to keep the Bass/Treble sliders clean.

They can cause static which you'll go baldtrying to figure out thinking you have a bad RCA cable.

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Postby crxgator » Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:19 pm

wow, i actually had one of these before...

how much do these go for?
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Postby Robb » Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:21 pm

crxgator wrote:wow, i actually had one of these before...

how much do these go for?


check Ebay
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Postby Mista Bone » Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:09 am

bring BANK...........
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Postby ollie » Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:28 pm

lol...I'm a hardcore Alpine guy now,but I miss my old Sony HU..XR-777.Those were very nice back in the day.
AND YES it was a cassette player!:lol:

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This is what I have in my DD hatch now.
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Nice rare find on that 7909 Robb!
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Postby Baker » Sun Nov 23, 2008 2:32 pm

Similarly, there is a 7903 on eBay right now...

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ALPINE-7903-7903S-A ... 0318523775

and a 7709J w/cd changer

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ultra-Rare-ALPINE-7 ... 0306795798
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Postby Robb » Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:46 pm

Baker wrote:Similarly, there is a 7903 on eBay right now...

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The specs compared to the 7909 arent even close.
The 7909 is the only old Alpine deck worth buying. It was 4v preout unheard of back then..
The internals used were of super high quality.
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Postby jfrolang » Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:50 pm

I am not an audiophile but I can appreciate quality sound. Still, I do not understand how the demand for this ugly old thing can be so high. Is it impossible for Alpine (or anyone else) to produce a better head unit with an emphasis on sound quality, near 20 years later?

Or, am I overlooking something and the demand is because it's the best of its era?
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Postby Baker » Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:06 pm

jfrolang wrote:I am not an audiophile but I can appreciate quality sound. Still, I do not understand how the demand for this ugly old thing can be so high. Is it impossible for Alpine (or anyone else) to produce a better head unit with an emphasis on sound quality, near 20 years later?

Or, am I overlooking something and the demand is because it's the best of its era?


I can only assume, just like with anything els with a niche market, enthusiasts push the market price up. Compound it with the rarity of finding any more units in that nice of shape.
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Postby Robb » Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:11 pm

Well theres a few headunits that sound just as good if not better than the Alpine 7909.

- Clarion DRZ9255
- Denon Z1
- Rockford Fosgate RF8240
- Pioneer P800 PRS
- Eclipse CD7200 mkII
- McIntosh MX-4000
- SONY C-90 R
- NAKAMICHI CD 700 MK II


Hers a gallery of the best of the best car audio !
http://www.audiocar.pl/galeria/galeria.html
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Postby PaulD » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:36 pm

jfrolang wrote:I am not an audiophile but I can appreciate quality sound. Still, I do not understand how the demand for this ugly old thing can be so high. Is it impossible for Alpine (or anyone else) to produce a better head unit with an emphasis on sound quality, near 20 years later?

Or, am I overlooking something and the demand is because it's the best of its era?


I am sure they can, problem is price. The 7909 in the late 80's had an MSRP of $1000, the later remake with copper chassis in the mid/late 90's was more like $1800 iirc. The CD player they introduced as the F#1 status headunit was of similiar quality but updated looks, it $3000 MSRP.
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Postby snm95ls » Sun Nov 30, 2008 2:45 am

Awesome score.

I currently rock a Kenwood KDC-X915 in my 91 hatch.

I have on old Eclipse EDD-419, but the ESN was activated by the previous owner.

Neither are quite as classic as that piece of car audio history.

very very cool man.
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Postby AudioGMan » Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:11 pm

Awesome head unit. I owned one back in the early '90s. You won't know what I'm talking about unless you've owned one. 5-1/2 lbs of quality unlike today's made in china crap.
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Postby Robb » Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:35 pm

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Postby imgoingforit » Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:55 pm

That price OTT.

I bet it can't play burned CDs though.
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Postby Robb » Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:14 pm

imgoingforit wrote:That price OTT.

I bet it can't play burned CDs though.


It can
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